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Doc, you can load shot shells for .38, .44, and .45 Colt by using gas checks instead of buying the Speer shotshell capsules. Seat the gas check cup up over the powder, dip case full of shot place the gas check over the shot cup down and crimp it a little. I have loaded a lot of these for my old Colt .45 before Speer started making the .45 Colt capsules.
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+1 on a blank load for a BP Pistol. I have used 20 grains of P- pyrodex or FFFG BP and then top off the cylinder with cream of wheat and packed tight. This is a Blank Load used by reenactors.
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The problem with Black Powder is the after effect of the wad and unburned powder. You can start a fire.
For a 44 cal. C&B revolver measure out about 150 gr. of shot. And substitute for the ball. vary your powder charge according to the distance you are covering. You should be able to get 30 gr. of 3F in the chambers.
Powder first in the chamber, then a card wad over the powder, then the shot, covered by another card wad.
Then I would cover the shot card with some Crisco or other type of Lube of your choice.
Use some #9 shot if you can get it.
Lefty Dude wrote:The problem with Black Powder is the after effect of the wad and unburned powder. You can start a fire. . . . Good luck, don't burn what ever down.
Thanks...good point. Will try to limit safari hours to damp times of day and won't shoot inside.
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I recall reading some tests that Sam Fadala (an excellent writer, tester and hunter for BP) did with using shot loads in BP Revolvers; if I recall correctly, the twist of the rifling opened up holes in the middle of the patterns, and some looked like "donuts" with a big hole in the middle.
But then again, you'd probably get all the bees on the edges!
I've shot a few but its been years ago and don't remember the results. You should get the same kind of patterns a modern revolver with rifling gives. I used the lubed felt wads and they don't need any more lube added. I've never had any problems with the black powder causing a fire hazard. The fire hazards have always been the patch and wad material I've used.
I found the "donut effect" increased as the shot size increased when I was experimenting with the .327 Federal Magnum making shot loads a couple months ago. Finally got in some #12 shot from Ballistic Products, and need to load it up. The smallest shot I had on hand before was #9. I'm expecting good things from the #12 shot based on what the #9 did. I used 3 grains of Unique, card wad, filled the case with shot (about 60 grains), then over-shot card. I just punched the cards out of coasters from restaurants using a 5/16" wad punch. It worked very well, is really economical, and not overly load (my intent is to use this on venomous snakes in my yard, and I live in a fairly tight neighborhood [yards average about 1/3-1/2 acre]).
I have to agree with the "blank" percussion load also. If I can pop balloons from about 15' with nothing but a 45Colt case almost full of 2F and a bit of that stuff florists use to hold flower arrangements, (yes, I competed in mounting shooting, winning a few buckles), I strongly suspect killing a bumble bee ain't gonna prove impossible.
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My bro and I found that badmitten rackets are extremely effective and almost as much fun as shooting. But returning the serve takes a definite skill that can only be learned by doing. We had a big 'ole pile of bees when we were done.
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Lefty Dude wrote:The problem with Black Powder is the after effect of the wad and unburned powder. You can start a fire. . . . Good luck, don't burn what ever down.
Thanks...good point. Will try to limit safari hours to damp times of day and won't shoot inside.
If you're worried about fire/unburnt powder etc, use Trail Boss instead of Black in your blanks.
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