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Apache Blue Lube

#1 Post by MtnGun » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:17 am

Will this ever be made again? Does anyone have the recipe? Was my favorite lube.

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Re: Apache Blue Lube

#2 Post by Cliff » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:54 am

Apache Blue Lube was our own Paco Kelly's idea and product. I don't know if it is still being made, as I have a fair supply. If you can contact Paco you may find out more. Good Luck, great stuff. ATB....

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Re: Apache Blue Lube

#3 Post by Rusty » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:28 am

If you can't come up with any Apache Blue you might try some of Veral Smith's
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Re: Apache Blue Lube

#4 Post by Sixgun » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:01 pm

With the exception of blackpowder or shooting over 2200, I never saw the need for anything better than beeswax/alox. Nothing personal, but Paco's Apache Blue is/was not cheap. Just my .01 :D -----Sixgun

I can make my own lube (about 16 sticks) for about a 10 spot. :wink:
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Re: Apache Blue Lube

#5 Post by Rusty » Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:04 pm

At work they use Chevron blue grease for putting on our 5th wheels when they do a PM. I always wondered if that Chevron grease and bee's wax wouldn't make a good mix.
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Re: Apache Blue Lube

#6 Post by Sixgun » Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:43 pm

Rusty wrote:At work they use Chevron blue grease for putting on our 5th wheels when they do a PM. I always wondered if that Chevron grease and bee's wax wouldn't make a good mix.
'Ya know something Rusty, you might have figured out something as maybe thats where the Apache Blue formula comes from. :D

I ofen wonder about all of these "wonder lubes" just being a get rich scheme. Well, maybe not a "get rich scheme", but a "get a bunch of bucks in a hurry scheme" :D

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Re: Apache Blue Lube

#7 Post by Tycer » Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:23 pm

LBT is Apache. Seems like on the old forum in 2004? I read here that Paco and Veral had formed some sort of agreement. I like the soft blue, it is more like the Apache I had. I gotta tell ya, the black coating that lube leaves in the barrel is the cat's meow.
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Re: Apache Blue Lube

#8 Post by Tycer » Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:13 pm

OK, I think I must be wrong. I found a page in a notebook that lists LBT Blue and Apache Blue as being produced at the same time. I'm so confused.
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Re: Apache Blue Lube

#9 Post by Tycer » Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:20 pm

I do have a bit more than a gallon of Alox 2138f and mixing it with beeswax works great, but I can't stand the smell. I don't know what it is, but Alox 2138f absolutely makes me want to retch.
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Re: Apache Blue Lube

#10 Post by jd45 » Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:26 pm

Allright sixgun, so just what's the formula? For the beeswax/alox combo I mean. And does the alox you mentioned refer to Lee's Liquid Alox? If not, what the hell are you referring to? Inquiring minds want to know! jd45

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Re: Apache Blue Lube

#11 Post by Sixgun » Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:36 am

jd45 wrote:Allright sixgun, so just what's the formula? For the beeswax/alox combo I mean. And does the alox you mentioned refer to Lee's Liquid Alox? If not, what the hell are you referring to? Inquiring minds want to know! jd45

You want me to tell 'ya?/ Can you keep a secret? So can I! :D :D

Alox is some kind of a lube and that whats they call it. Its the old tried and true NRA formula which is 50% Beeswax and 50% Alox. I keep it simple and mix 55% white lithium lube and 45% beeswax. (by weight) This formula stays soft even in winter and won't run in summer and like I said earlier, costs me about $10 for a couple of years worth of lube :wink: :D -----------------Sixgun
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Re: Apache Blue Lube

#12 Post by BenT » Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:31 am

I used Sixguns lube. It is a good soft lube. The smell makes me wonder if I'm lubing bullets or packing wheel bearings.

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Re: Apache Blue Lube

#13 Post by Cliff » Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:40 am

From what I have read on alox is it's primary use was for undercoating on vehicles. They have a variety of formulations but some shooters were using Alox in their lubes and obtaining it from automotive dealers who offered undercoating on their vehicles. I live in Florida so undercoating a car isn't that much but it was sold under different names and best applied to a new vehicle to prevent salt damage. The journal of the Cast Bullet Assoc. the "Fouling Shot" had a bit of write ups on those using it.
At least that is what I remember on its original source and use. ATB

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