140gr. plain based in the .30-30?

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Saeco lists a mold for this bullet. 150 to 180 grains seems to be preferred weight range for many, so before I order I thought I'd ask for input. I'd be casting wheel weights for my model 94 Winchesters, probably looking for 1,600-1,800 fps. Does anyone have experience with this weight in the .30-30?

[Hobie]

I've been using a 149 gr. PB bullet in my .30-30 and .30 Herrett but wouldn't think of trying to push it at 1600 fps. I "shoot" for around 1300 fps.

[J35]

I am with Hobie, 1600 -1800 fps is a little much for PB bullet.

I have the #360 140 gr's gas checked brother the 316 and it shoot's nice in that velocity range.

RCBS has a nice 150 gr PB bullet that works really well in a 30-30, most likely a little cheaper to boot, not as sexy looking as the 630, but I bet it shoots just as well if not better.

The 150 RCBS CB with 12.5 gr's of WC 820 has given me the smallest 5 shot 100 yard groups I have ever recorded with a 30-30.

I will stick my neck out a little farther and say you will have a better chance of getting a bullet of at least .310 body diameter and a .300 to .301 nose diameter with WW alloy using the RCBS CB Bullet.

Have fun

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I originally looked at RCBS molds, but have heard that they've been having quality issues - such as bullets dropping undersized.
So for the velocity I'm looking for, a GC is mandatory?

[Sixgun]

Homefront,
I use the 175 gr. Saeco "tapered" gas check bullet almost exclusively in 30-30, 30-06, 30-40, and the 30 Remington. I cast these using wheelweights with 4% tin added, but the tin is not really needed. I like it because it makes a better looking, sharp bullet. I also water quench. Hardness comes out between 8-9 on the Saeco scale, which is about 15 Brinnell.

These get sized .311 and are shot out of at least a dozen 30 caliber rifles, with most velocities between 1750-1850 using 5744 powder.

The mould I have is 4 cavity and I usually cast 1200-1500 at a time. I might get a year out of this.

This bullet is headache free (place to crimp, feeding, accuracy) and always is decently accurate in every 30 caliber rifle I have shot it in. Its a real smoker in an old Model 55 Winchester, easily hitting the 385 meter turkey. (off the bench!) I guess its also a smoker in an 03A3 Smith Carona, 95 Winchesters, 94 rifles and carbines! -----------Sixgun

Oh, the gas check--get it! A gas check takes headaches away in the accuracy/leading department. It leads to less load developement. For the .02 cents they cost, its nothing when you compare that to an electric bill or car insurance we are all nagged with.

[J35]

I originally looked at RCBS molds, but have heard that they've been having quality issues - such as bullets dropping undersized.
So for the velocity I'm looking for, a GC is mandatory?

I would say so, you might get two or three shots but then things would go down hill pretty fast.

If gas checks are to be used then it opens a whole new world.

Rcbs cuts their CowBoy moulds a little bigger.

I have sent two Gas Check moulds back to RCBS over the years and they cheerfully replaced them .

Here is a recent thread on Redding Saeco quality or maybe I should say lack of.

Good luck



http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=44247

[Sixgun]

Here is a recent thread on Redding Saeco quality or maybe I should say lack of.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=44247

J35 nut,
I read that post and I must say that guy must be the most retarded individual I have ever seen. After he buys something thats junk, he keeps on buying and keeps on buying. I cannot believe what he is saying is true, he must have a hardy for Redding.

I buy mostly RCBS and Lyman but do indulge in Redding, in fact most every gun/gun accessory company and the only company I have ever had problems with continuous quality control is with Marlin.---------------Sixgun