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#1 Post by Pete44ru » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:46 pm


“Major industry-wide changes in the advertising space have greatly impacted Photobucket, including the rise of ad blockers,” CEO John Corpus said in a blog posted Thursday, saying Photobucket’s had an explosion of third-party hosting that generates no revenue for the company. “This model is no longer sustainable.”

He's apparently blaming everybody using ad blockers as being at the root of PB's financial loss.

https://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news ... 1499442250

Gee, I feel guilty because I don't want to be force-fed ads.......... :roll:


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#2 Post by Malamute » Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:03 pm

Well if I were to guess, their new policy isnt going to be sustainable either. They seem to be overwhelmed with really really bad ideas the past few years. I predict their demise before long, and I cant say i'm too broke up about it.

The guy makes a valid point, if something is free, you arent the customer, youre the product, the thing that pays the bills is the advertisers, however, they seem to have gone about trying to change things in a tremendously dumb way.
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#3 Post by Rusty » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:40 pm

I use an ad blocker because I have a really slow internet connection. The best I can get with DSL is 750 KBS, that's life in the country. Without ad blocker in place my download speeds slow to what I had years ago when all I had was dial up service. If web site owners weren't so greedy by placing so many unrelated ads on their sites I wouldn't need an ad blocker.
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#4 Post by crs » Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:40 am

It is sad when a CEO blames society, market changes, technology progress and such for business management mistakes (remind you of someone ?(Obama)).

Former PB users understand that the PB company must remain profitable, but resent the offhand manner in which the recent changes were handled.
Proper customer care requires thought, lead time, consideration and notification, all of which were missing in the recent PB action
PB acted like government agency run by bureaucrats with no oversight ( Think EPA and their actions in Colorado that caused the pollution of rivers in CO, NM, and a lake). There were no firings at all for gross mismanagement and incompetence.
At least in private, non governmental, organizations, customers have a choice and can punish bad management by taking their business elsewhere. Similar for elected officials; why not for bureaucrats?
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#5 Post by Pete44ru » Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:05 am

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FWIW, "free" account holders are not "customers" - they represent a cost of doing business (selling ads).

That said, if "free" account holders don't respond to their ads, the bottom line suffers.

I can understand that, but as stated earlier, the FB decision led IMO to a rude & offensive process.


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#6 Post by Lefty Dude » Sun Jul 09, 2017 2:30 pm

I can not afford, "FREE".
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#7 Post by Griff » Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:44 pm

I'd pay for their service... however, when I asked the question about by "buying" a subscription, would my PB experience be truly "ad-free", the customer service representative has yet to respond... a week hence. So...
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#8 Post by Pete44ru » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:54 pm

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I used the EASY button, and rather than deal with PB's hassle's, just switched to a few trouble-free pic hosting websites. (Yes, I use more than one)

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#9 Post by JohndeFresno » Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:27 am

Interesting.

Left Photobucket completely as two days ago - July 7th.

Existing stuff was left there so that the images still show up here in various threads.
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#10 Post by Carlsen Highway » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:57 am

The irony of this man's statement, is that I only went to using an ad blocker on his site - because I was being so overwhelmed with ads that his service wasn't functioning.

Their revenue gathering wrecked the site not people using ad blockers. I think you can label all of this as the result of corporate greed, and then, let it go. Release them back into the ocean, watching for the flick of the tail as they recover, but it doesn't come, and they sink into the deep darkness.
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#11 Post by Old Ironsights » Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:29 pm

I may have to go the Hosting route. I'm having a hard time finding Services that have Terms of Service that I can live with (i.e., if we don't like your pic because of our politics, we can delete it, or you...)
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#12 Post by JohndeFresno » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:01 pm

Old Ironsights wrote:
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I may have to go the Hosting route. I'm having a hard time finding Services that have Terms of Service that I can live with (i.e., if we don't like your pic because of our politics, we can delete it, or you...)
I have not examined other image hosting Terms of Service with a fine tooth comb, as of yet. But I studied IMGUR's and there does not appear to be anything at that site that bothers me. If you put anything onto the web, it loses its privacy no matter what you do, unless you are on a locked website. And I have seen where the content of some of those STILL show up with a careful Google search.

Since I state what I believe but don't post stuff that is too far out there, I don't see anything within their Terms that bothers me. It doesn't really touch upon restrictions due to politics, hunting pix or gun ownership, so that is what I am using now. They do state that gore is not acceptable, but I think that is subject to reasonable interpretation with regards to hunting pix.

In a nutshell, besides stating that they have a right to share your stuff (and people do, anyway, if they want to), they say this:
" Don't upload gore, "hate speech" (i.e. demeaning race, gender, age, religious or sexual orientation, etc.), or material that is threatening, harassing, defamatory, or that encourages violence or crime. Don't upload illegal content such as child porn or nonconsensual ("revenge") porn. Don't hotlink to adult content or to file-sharing, gambling, torrent, warez, or Imgur rip-off sites. Don't impersonate someone else."
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#13 Post by Old Ironsights » Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:37 am

JohndeFresno wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:01 pm
Old Ironsights wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:29 pm
I may have to go the Hosting route. I'm having a hard time finding Services that have Terms of Service that I can live with (i.e., if we don't like your pic because of our politics, we can delete it, or you...)
I have not examined other image hosting Terms of Service with a fine tooth comb, as of yet. But I studied IMGUR's and there does not appear to be anything at that site that bothers me. If you put anything onto the web, it loses its privacy no matter what you do, unless you are on a locked website. And I have seen where the content of some of those STILL show up with a careful Google search.

Since I state what I believe but don't post stuff that is too far out there, I don't see anything within their Terms that bothers me. It doesn't really touch upon restrictions due to politics, hunting pix or gun ownership, so that is what I am using now. They do state that gore is not acceptable, but I think that is subject to reasonable interpretation with regards to hunting pix.

In a nutshell, besides stating that they have a right to share your stuff (and people do, anyway, if they want to), they say this:
" Don't upload gore, "hate speech" (i.e. demeaning race, gender, age, religious or sexual orientation, etc.), or material that is threatening, harassing, defamatory, or that encourages violence or crime. Don't upload illegal content such as child porn or nonconsensual ("revenge") porn. Don't hotlink to adult content or to file-sharing, gambling, torrent, warez, or Imgur rip-off sites. Don't impersonate someone else."
What is "reasonable interpretation" to you and me regarding hunting pics and gore is "cause" for "material that is threatening, harassing, defamatory, or that encourages violence or crime" from lefty ANTIFA type loons. It happens all the time.

Remember, Ebone and Zukerberg's Toy stopped all gun sales because it "promoted violence and illegal activity".
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#14 Post by JohndeFresno » Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:58 pm

I totally understand your statement.

However, rather than debating the unknown, I'm using that site until and unless that Liberal idiocy surfaces there.

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#15 Post by marlinman93 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:01 am

prior to installing an ad blocker program I couldn't even get PB to open! My account there was so slow, and kept resetting itself, or coming up with error messages on my computer. Had they figured out a way to have ads and not slow my computer to a stop, I'd still be using PB. But their highly over priced $400 a year fee is their death knoll, not ad blockers.
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#16 Post by JohndeFresno » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:09 pm

As of today, Photobucket has successfully blocked my free account, too - the photos saved on that site won't display in my postings here, going back several years. I could not download my album, as per Photobucket information and other sources on the Internet.

However, I was able to save a scrolled graphic file showing all of what I had using the Snag-It paid utility.

It looks like Leverguns will lose a lot of graphic info. I don't have time to individually download 412 photos and graphs, so I am just deleting my Photobucket account and starting fresh - from this date forward - with IMGUR.
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#17 Post by marlinman93 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:24 am

Looking around at various forums I had project posts on for guns or cars, all the images are gone. Replaced with the PB image we're getting used to seeing everywhere. Seems to me that PB is self destructing, and nobody else to blame.
I can still access my account at PB, but too many images to move, so it's all lost anyway.
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#18 Post by JohndeFresno » Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:25 pm

Here is one interesting news link with the comments of several outraged customers from around the world:
http://www.news.com.au/finance/business ... e6ec2520c6

Thank goodness, I archive every significant photo I have placed on the Photobucket servers. Some gag entries are lost, but no real loss there.

I have unsubscribed from the Photobucket website, and that takes a couple of days to be final, per the website. In that way, I hope, they will release all of my photos so that at least the links at this website will just display "No such link" or similar advisory notice, instead of that large annoying Photobucket box.

I encourage all Photobucket user-victims to unsubscribe, even non-paid users like me, so that the company's sponshorship will fall away and it will put them out of business.
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#19 Post by AJMD429 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:04 pm

JohndeFresno wrote:
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I have unsubscribed from the Photobucket website, and that takes a couple of days to be final, per the website. In that way, I hope, they will release all of my photos so that at least the links at this website will just display "No such link" or similar advisory notice, instead of that large annoying Photobucket box.

I encourage all Photobucket user-victims to unsubscribe, even non-paid users like me, so that the company's sponshorship will fall away and it will put them out of business.
I think it is good that everyone sees those "large annoying Photobucket box" - it might (hopefully, but doubtfully) generate pressure on them to adopt a more reasonable policy.
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#20 Post by JohndeFresno » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:09 pm

I don't have that much faith in them, Doc.

This is a new opportunistic person or group that bought out Photobucket under another name, and then changed their name to Photobucket Inc. You can get the history by entering "Photobucket Wikipedia" into Google. What they did was immediate and treacherous - they deserve to lose it all. Here is an image that I posted both on Photobucket and in my new photo hosting site, IMGUR:
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#21 Post by Malamute » Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:13 pm

I got a somewhat vague message from them today, it said some features will be discontinued on my account, but didn't say exactly what. It said my use was "excessive", which is really pretty funny, as Ive use what they say is 2% of my allowable space limit. I also don't soley use PB for 3rd party hosting, though the little image in the massage said that. More bull-ony.

There was a link to this today also. Not $400, but in light of the very poor function of their site, still not a good investment. Still, no 3rd party hosting until you get to the $400 mark though. Pretty stupid in light of the fact that theres so many free hosting sites.

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#22 Post by barbarossa » Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:15 am

The long and the short if it is photobucket saw that the majority of its users were using third party hosting and decided to cash in on it by blackmailing the users. Not asmart business move

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#23 Post by pdentrem » Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:40 pm

The proper way would of setting a much lower cost. With the tens of millions of users even $10 / Year would of covered their bandwidth cost. Since we are talking about a system that only awards short term greed vs long term business survival and actually higher profit, we should not be surprised by what has happened.
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#24 Post by throckmorton4440 » Thu Aug 10, 2017 2:42 pm

Just deleted my account .It as always DEAD SLOW,and their new polices just plain suck. !
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#25 Post by Carlsen Highway » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:32 am

Theres nothing like betraying peoples trust for destroying a business. I bet that CEO has a hard time getting a job digging a garden after this.


Here's an example of a nice picture I took, that is hosted on Imgur: (If Imgur has ads - I havnt noticed - but if they do, every now and then I will click on one, just to help them out.)

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#26 Post by marlinman93 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:09 am

Had to Google "how to delete PB account", but finally deleted it. Just not using it wont send the message I want to send them!
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#27 Post by KeithNyst » Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:46 pm

JohndeFresno wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:01 pm
Old Ironsights wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:29 pm
I may have to go the Hosting route. I'm having a hard time finding Services that have Terms of Service that I can live with (i.e., if we don't like your pic because of our politics, we can delete it, or you...)
I have not examined other image hosting Terms of Service with a fine tooth comb, as of yet. But I studied IMGUR's and there does not appear to be anything at that site that bothers me. If you put anything onto the web, it loses its privacy no matter what you do, unless you are on a locked website. And I have seen where the content of some of those STILL show up with a careful Google search.

Since I state what I believe but don't post stuff that is too far out there, I don't see anything within their Terms that bothers me. It doesn't really touch upon restrictions due to politics, hunting pix or gun ownership, so that is what I am using now. They do state that gore is not acceptable, but I think that is subject to reasonable interpretation with regards to hunting pix.

In a nutshell, besides stating that they have a right to share your stuff (and people do, anyway, if they want to), they say this:
" Don't upload gore, "hate speech" (i.e. demeaning race, gender, age, religious or sexual orientation, etc.), or material that is threatening, harassing, defamatory, or that encourages violence or crime. Don't upload illegal content such as child porn or nonconsensual ("revenge") porn. Don't hotlink to adult content or to file-sharing, gambling, torrent, warez, or Imgur rip-off sites. Don't impersonate someone else."
In reading IMGUR's Terms of Service, my interpretation is we violate their terms of service if we link to our photos stored on IMGUR from another website, like putting a link here to show a photo here that is stored there. Here's their Terms of Service verbage (the "..." are junk a left out): "Also, don't use Imgur to host image libraries you link to from elsewhere, ... or anything else that turns us into your content delivery network. If you do – and we will be the judge – … we will ban you along with the site you're hotlinking from, delete all your images, report you to the authorities if necessary, and prevent you from viewing any images hosted on Imgur.com. We mean it."

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#28 Post by Carlsen Highway » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:59 pm

Huh. Oh well. I will not click on their ads after all! Let them report me to the authorities. I will look forward to that discussion with the International Internet Police.
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#29 Post by marlinman93 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:24 pm

"Report you to the authorities"??? What authorities? Are there internet police that come to your home and rip your cables out? Do they haul you off in emogee handcuffs? What a load of baloney.
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#30 Post by Old Ironsights » Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:03 pm

marlinman93 wrote:
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"Report you to the authorities"??? What authorities? Are there internet police that come to your home and rip your cables out? Do they haul you off in emogee handcuffs? What a load of baloney.
Actually... That is exactly how a whole lot of criminal Pervs get nabbed...
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#31 Post by marlinman93 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:26 am

Old Ironsights wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:03 pm
marlinman93 wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:24 pm
"Report you to the authorities"??? What authorities? Are there internet police that come to your home and rip your cables out? Do they haul you off in emogee handcuffs? What a load of baloney.
Actually... That is exactly how a whole lot of criminal Pervs get nabbed...
So you think criminal pervs are the same as people who use image hosting? Don't want to burst your bubble, but I'll bet money the cops wont come knocking on anyone's door for using Imgur to host pictures.
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#32 Post by Old Ironsights » Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:41 am

Sigh.

That language is there in their TOS specifically and only to deal with actionable criminal activity.

In that sense, and only thar sense, they can and do "report you to the authorities" over uploaded images.

There is no actionable statute that would permit "reporting you to the authorities" over guns snaps or even "icky hunting photos", but that is not why the legaleze is there.
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Re: From John Corpus, Photobucket CEO

#33 Post by JohndeFresno » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:56 am

I believe OI is correct.

A whole lot of work goes into proving, for instance, who was at the keyboard when criminal cyber activity has taken place, even with passwords/passphrases being used.

At worst, copyrighted material that is consistently plagiarized on a large scale might result in a civil trial, but the investigation is a timely and expensive process.
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Re: From John Corpus, Photobucket CEO

#34 Post by marlinman93 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:14 am

JohndeFresno wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:56 am
I believe OI is correct.

A whole lot of work goes into proving, for instance, who was at the keyboard when criminal cyber activity has taken place, even with passwords/passphrases being used.

At worst, copyrighted material that is consistently plagiarized on a large scale might result in a civil trial, but the investigation is a timely and expensive process.
Exactly. So nobody need worry that if they post images using Imgur at any gun site that somebody is going to arrest them. Not even sure why that was inferred by "KeithNyst" post.
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