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Ohio used to celebrate the opening day as a holiday, and probably still is.
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People need to start suing both the school board and the teachers who allow things like this. They also need to follow it thru until the money is in the bank. These teachers are there to teach the 3 Rs not impose their warped values on our children.
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Well said Rusty, but they should be sued for their position not money. Get em fired for NOT doing their job of the 3 R's!
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Dad needs to get his man on and go whup that teacher's azz.

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BlaineG wrote:Ohio used to celebrate the opening day as a holiday, and probably still is.

It still is in some parts of the state. Doesn't surprise me where this took place, that area has been over run with bunny huggers and uber liberals with more money than sense.

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My daughter teaches in Fort Worth now, Her 9 year old GIRLS come in and tell about their weekend at the ranch where they are the retrieve and cripple killers for the guys during Dove season.

Guess it's still ok in Texas. 8)
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My son is the Music Director for a HS in middle Mn.
He hunts and fishes year round! He and other teachers fish together, go to northern Wi. staying at a cabin of one of the teachers.
His girlfriend is the vocal director at a HS the next district over. She fishes with him and our grandson.
She completed hunter education this past summer, so she could go hunting with them.
They grouse hunted, and went back to his old district in western Mn. to pheasant hunt.
The grandson loves fishing, and is on his way to hunting education so he can get his hunting license, and carry a shotgun next year and try his hand at grouse and pheasants.
When they visit down here we go the range and we are introducing him to handguns! Can't remember if Iowa passed a new law allowing kids to be legal with a firearm accompanied by a parent or adult. But you see plenty of it at the range!
Plenty of youngsters in the schools in Mn. hunt and fish with their families!
Of course kids in the big cities may participate with their families going up north or elsewhere, fishing and hunting.
Lots of kids in Iowa hunt with their families, and you see young kids out with grandpa or even grandma on farm ponds around this area.

As previously stated teachers should be called out for imposing their warped views on kids that participate in hunting and fishing activities on their time!!! Stick to teaching the subject matter, reading, writing, arithmetic, factual history, factual social studies etc. and keep their warped personal morals to themselves! If they can't maybe the janitor needs help?
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The REAL 'divide' in this country isn't between blacks and whites, men and women, Republicans and Democrats, or even Christians and athiests.

It is between 'rural' and 'urban' more than perhaps anything else.

Generally the rural people are more comfortable being 'on their own', whether to provide food for the family, put out a barn-fire, build a house, or whatever. The urban people are more comfortable having someone else do those things for them, and that isn't necessarily wrong, IF we have a government that is a Constitutional Republic, and allows Free-Market Capitalism free reign, but once the government starts being in the business of providing food, housing, education, and health-care, or 'picking winners' based on ethnicity, religion (or lack of), age, gender, or whatever other cosmetic difference they can leverage for political purposes, the conflict between "producer" and "consumer" grows, and most generally, the rural families are 'producers' of some sort, and if you set aside factory workers and so on, many urban citizens' careers are either some sort of pencil-pushing make-work type job essentially created by government regulators, or worse, simply breathing and making welfare-babies.

I don't know how you guys who live in urban areas can maintain sanity, given the mindset so often seen there. Even small towns have it, if there is a college, and consequently are enough 'academics' there who pontificate about the world, but don't really have to compete and engage in it.
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Opening day of Buck Season is off for the kids in the mountain counties here in Pa......at least it was up till about 15 years ago.

Libs have really shown themselves in the past couple of years...to the point of being violent and demanding. Like Doc says, I have never seen people so divided and the parallels are pretty much down to rural and city people. Not all mind you...I have some good buddies who live in Philly and we have plenty of libs here where I live...that used to be very rural.

Yes, the teacher should be reprimanded and put in her place.

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There are plenty of urban people who are rural minded. Unfortunately, the opposite is becoming more common also. When I was general contracting and doing alternative energy design and install (I live in an off the grid area at 9000 ft in the CO Rockies), a lady from CA bought property near me and hired me to do her solar system. I met with her on site one morning after doing some shooting at my own long established range. She began commenting about hearing gunfire and moved on to propose an ordinance by a non existent HOA. At that point I explained to her that it was me shooting and that it's a regular past time of myself and many other locals, and if any of that was even attempted I would start shooting from 8am to 5pm every day till she moved. I didn't get the installation contract, and she left and never came back. The foundation sat for over 10 years before someone else bought it and finished the house. I recently had the cops called on me by some adjacent property owners from New Jersey who came out to inspect their land. They claimed I was shooting at them, despite the fact I was half a mile away facing the opposite direction from them shooting into my own hillside. That ended up in a bit of a tense stand off with a new kid deputy while my wife filmed and me with my lawyer on the phone recording the entire conversation in my front yard.
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Rusty wrote:People need to start suing both the school board and the teachers who allow things like this. They also need to follow it thru until the money is in the bank. These teachers are there to teach the 3 Rs not impose their warped values on our children.
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If the girl had worn a Hillary sweatshirt to school she'd be idolized by the same teacher! I doubt kids in the classroom were as upset about the shirt as the teacher likely was! She likely used that story after she knew she was in trouble for belittling and shaming the young girl.
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Sore Shoulder........I really like the way you responded, clear and precise with no second guessing of your intentions. :D ----6
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My son had an incident some 32 years ago. On the first day of first grade, the teacher asked each student to come to the front of the class and tell the others of something they did during the summer. My son told about being able to go the range, learning all the safety rules and meeting several of his dad's friends; plus, getting to fire a gun... the story I got was she put her hands on my son to stop him from telling his story, insisting that I was the worst parent in the world and should be arrested... never allowing him to tell her it was a Sheriff's Department range... so he kicked her.

I happened to be off that day, (working nights), and got the call to come collect my son, he was being expelled. I had a short lecture from the Principal, getting the "school's" policy about violent behavior. After a brief interrogation of my son, I then had a very short discussion with said Principal. Who agreed, the teacher had overstepped her parameters for interacting with a student. We then interrupted the teacher's day for an immediate parent/teacher conference, (I'd made a point to wear a coat & tie, with both my badge and gun visible...), whereupon the teacher was informed that she was restricted to teaching the 3 R's to my son. Subjects about Morality and Social integration would be handled by two very concerned, committed adults to the raising of a well-rounded, and grounded child into a thinking and discerning adult. I loved her comment when she first saw me, "...really Mr. (Principal), I don't really think this altercation should concern law-enforcement. After all, the young boy is only 6." Her composure melted when I stated that I was there due to HER actions... It was fairly easy from that point on. My son remained in school for the balance of the day... no more talk about expulsion. But, he did get some punishment for kicking the teacher.
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marlinman93 wrote:If the girl had worn a Hillary sweatshirt to school she'd be idolized by the same teacher! I doubt kids in the classroom were as upset about the shirt as the teacher likely was! She likely used that story after she knew she was in trouble for belittling and shaming the young girl.
IF the other kids really were 'upset' by the shirt, it would have been a 'teaching moment' and the perfect opportunity to educate the other kids about hunting and the ecosystem and so on. I'm sure had other kids been upset by a Hillary sweatshirt, she would have no doubt 'educated' the Little Deplorables...!!!
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I seriously doubt this same teacher would ask her to remove a Hillary shirt if other kids complained.
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Hey, I thought these teachers were supposed to be teaching how "not" to be bullies. Guess she misread the memo and thought she was supposed to show them how to bully someone.
The teachers and board members need to loose their jobs for such things.
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Something needs to be done about the education system. Teachers are turning out students who know less and less and yet the teachers are demanding higher and higher pay.
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"Harvesting" itself is bending to the sanitizing of the sport of hunting. Harvesting applies to grain and vegetables, hunting and killing is for animals. I still hunt and kill and save harvesting for farmers...
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Well said Shrapnel!
I remember many of my teachers, both men and women asking us kids if we got a deer opening day. A good deal of us took the 1st day off from school. Never any repercussions! If the kid replied YES I GOT ONE- they were expected to tell the story. Heck even the teachers that hunted told their stories too.
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Shrapnel wrote:"Harvesting" itself is bending to the sanitizing of the sport of hunting. Harvesting applies to grain and vegetables, hunting and killing is for animals. I still hunt and kill and save harvesting for farmers...
"Harvesting" has become a popular term for taking game animals in the field and has been more popular in the past when used in reference to reaping produce (crops) from the ground. Present day, many game animal herds are managed to control numbers and to enhance breeding. In those cases I'd opine that "harvesting" is proper usage when catching, taking, or removing any of that number for use.

"Hunting" is merely a process of seeking to locate. "Killing" is what happens to extinguish a life, whether it is as a concluding part of a "hunting" process or happens on a slaughterhouse floor. "Killing" can be but is not always a deliberate act.

For hunting wild, i.e. unmanaged game, "hunting" and "killing" would be accurate but not exclusive. The term could equally apply to managed game. However, I'd again opine that "harvesting" is really only accurate when applied to managed animals.

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Father should immediately run for school board... send a message to the entire district.
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Yeah I don't like the term "harvesting' either. I believe its an attempt to remove the word kill, shoot or hunt, out of the pastime of hunting, to sanitise it for non-hunters and make it acceptable sounding, equating hunting with farming somehow...anyway, I think tis the wrong thing to do. If you start hiding what your doing behind another name then people will start thinking you've got something to hide. I go deer hunting and when I get one, I shot it.
Not to try and tell someone else what they should do with their own words, just agreeing with shrapnel. I always notice the word when its used. It seems to be a North American thing, but then we don't have so many anti hunters where I am.
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