Henry announced thier BLR-esque rifle

yooper2 · Post by **yooper2** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:06 pm

The "Long Ranger"
https://www.henryrifles.com/rifles/the-long-ranger/

Not doing anything for me but I look forward to reading the reviews once they get out into people's hands.

Eric

Edit:
Cannot change the title. Can't believe I misspelled "their".

1894cfan · Post by **1894cfan** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:45 pm

Kinda looks like a Marlin BLR?

Marlin32 · Post by **Marlin32** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:39 pm

I am all for it. I am hoping (and have sent email) it is chambered in 338 Fed in the future.

Malamute · Post by **Malamute** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:57 pm

The test gun Dpris had shot quite well also.

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JohndeFresno · Post by **JohndeFresno** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 5:34 pm

Malamute wrote:The test gun Dpris had shot quite well also.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=65078&start=0

Missed the above post, Malamute - Thanks.

Yooper - great info. This looks like a great idea. Oh, for an extra thou in my pocket just to grab one of these. I believe that this Henry will really take off, especially since you don't have to reach to the end of the barrel to load it.

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 5:49 pm

JohndeFresno wrote:
Malamute wrote:The test gun Dpris had shot quite well also.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=65078&start=0
Missed the above post, Malamute - Thanks.

Yooper - great info. This looks like a great idea. Oh, for an extra thou in my pocket just to grab one of these. I believe that this Henry will really take off, especially since you don't have to reach to the end of the barrel to load it.

Or, you could prolly find a ugly Mdl 88 for half that. It would prolly shoot just fine.

gundownunder · Post by **gundownunder** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:25 pm

It certainly isn't the ugliest levergun I've seen.
It will be interesting to see how it holds up against the BLR.

JB · Post by JB » Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:25 pm

yooper2 wrote:The "Long Ranger"
https://www.henryrifles.com/rifles/the-long-ranger/

Not doing anything for me but I look forward to reading the reviews once they get out into people's hands.

Eric

I'm not sold on the looks either.

FWiedner · Post by **FWiedner** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:40 pm

It's not in the 'hideous' category on looks.

Detachable mag is a big plus in my book.

Got a little sticker shock going on here... $1000?

EGAD!!!

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:51 pm

I don't mind its looks too much but it would look better with some decent iron sights.
If I was wanting something to fire pointy bullets I would consider it.
Looking forward to some (more) honest reviews.

JohndeFresno · Post by **JohndeFresno** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:46 pm

BlaineG wrote: Or, you could prolly find a ugly Mdl 88 for half that. It would prolly shoot just fine.

I have always been interested in a levergun that fields the powerful 30-06 or .308 missiles. What seems impressive with this entry is its reported lockup, which may bring accuracy even closer to that of a bolt action.

I haven't read all the writeups, 'cause I'm out of the market, anyway. At least for the next year.

MrMurphy · Post by **MrMurphy** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:11 am

If I really need an accurate long range gun, I'll get a bolt action (I started out on them).

That said, it doesn't look bad. Set up with irons, preferably an aperature, in .308? I'd probably buy one as a handy medium range piece.

Curious to see how it disassembles. Anytime you start talking about gears, etc.....that's not going to be fun to clean.

DPris · Post by **DPris** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 1:45 am

Y'know list price isn't what it'll go for.

May bring accuracy closer to a bolt?
It's there.

Easier to break down than the Browning.

Honest review?

What I gave here weren't honest?
Denis

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 2:30 am

DPris wrote:
Honest review?
What I gave here weren't honest?
Denis

What I should have said is I'm looking forward to some MORE honest reviews, sorry Denis

Your honest review is what sparked my interest.

DPris · Post by **DPris** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 11:36 am

Denis

JohndeFresno · Post by **JohndeFresno** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 11:40 am

DPris wrote:May bring accuracy closer to a bolt?
It's there.

Apologies for not carefully checking Page 2 of your thread, Denis, where you documented shooting results.

Amazing! This is an exciting breakthrough for levers - a magazine which allows spitzers but also an all steel, multi-lug mechanism for consistent lockups and enhanced accuracy. I would say that this mitigates the higher expense.

DPris · Post by **DPris** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 11:49 am

It's not a gun for lever-action traditionalists, it's not a bolt-action, and it's not a tactical gun.

It IS a well-made and accurate levergun in actual & useful rifle calibers that can easily handle 300-400 yard terrain IF it appeals to you.
If it doesn't, it doesn't.

My comments have not been intended to sell either the product or the concept, just to pass on info for anybody interested.

Lotta people dislike the Henry brand for various reasons, but the company has put quite a bit into this model & it simply breaks new ground for them.
Denis

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 11:53 am

They price out about the same as the BLR. Just looking at them, I like the BLR better.....

DPris · Post by **DPris** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:36 pm

Of the two, if I were going that route, I'd prefer the Henry with one-piece threaded barrel & easier breakdown.

The Browning can be a bear to take apart & get back together again.
Denis

JohndeFresno · Post by **JohndeFresno** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:50 pm

DPris wrote:Of the two, if I were going that route, I'd prefer the Henry with one-piece threaded barrel & easier breakdown.
The Browning can be a bear to take apart & get back together again.
Denis

Exactly.

Rimfire McNutjob · Post by **Rimfire McNutjob** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 1:08 pm

Wake me when it comes in 358 or 284.

DPris · Post by **DPris** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 1:48 pm

We dig you up in a hundred years or so, Mr. Van Winkle, just to make sure you're still breathing.

Denis

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 1:54 pm

DPris wrote:It's not a gun for lever-action traditionalists, it's not a bolt-action, and it's not a tactical gun.

It IS a well-made and accurate levergun in actual & useful rifle calibers that can easily handle 300-400 yard terrain IF it appeals to you.
If it doesn't, it doesn't.

My comments have not been intended to sell either the product or the concept, just to pass on info for anybody interested.

Lotta people dislike the Henry brand for various reasons, but the company has put quite a bit into this model & it simply breaks new ground for them.
Denis

Yeah, but it could be. That gun is just begging for a tapered octagon barrel and Schnabel Tip forewood.

Canuck Bob · Post by **Canuck Bob** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 2:05 pm

This is a great new initiative. It is welcoming when the marketplace introduces exposed hammer levers. The lever is the finest hunting rifle. Having a removable mag, high intensity cartridge, designed for a scope makes a dandy modern leveraction rifle.

I love my traditional levers but this will appeal to a lot of hunters. I once owned a 243 BLR. It was a dandy deer rifle but my preference for anything bigger than coyotes became the 444.

I for one like it. If I hadn't bought a 223 awhile ago that one would interest me.

DPris · Post by **DPris** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 2:55 pm

Steve- You build one like that & we'll talk.

Denis

jkbrea · Post by **jkbrea** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:04 pm

I like it. That .308 would make a good elk rifle in the woods with the 20" barrel.

MrMurphy · Post by **MrMurphy** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 4:44 pm

Savage figured out how to make one without an external hammer in 1899.....

It's not exactly a new idea.

FWiedner · Post by **FWiedner** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:25 pm

Hammer-less leverguns aren't any more appealing to me than hammer-less revolvers.

It's just wrong.

Ji in Hawaii · Post by **Ji in Hawaii** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:14 am

Henry MSRP is $1014.95, the BLR Lightweight MSRP is $959.99. The Henry weighs 7 lbs. even, the BLR Lightweight 6 lbs. 8 oz. I do believe the trigger on the Henry DOES NOT disconnect and swing down with the lever like on the BLR thus remaining in the frame while lever is work which I think is a good thing making fine tuning of trigger pull less problematic.
I prefer my leverguns with an exposed hammer. I like Henry's transfer bar safety hammer better then the BLR flip safety mounted on hammer. I like them both but personally I think the Henry "Long Ranger" looks cleaner (trigger/lever & magazine) and more traditional. I do wish Henry would add open sights to their product though. An XS, Williams WGRS, or Skinner Sight on the receiver with a Firesight front bead I could live with.

Henry "Long Ranger"

Browning BLR Lightweight 81

.45colt · Post by **.45colt** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 4:27 am

I got it.....they are lever actuated bolt action rifles.

.

wecsoger · Post by **wecsoger** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 8:31 am

Well, bless Henry for this, it's in interesting new development.

I'm waiting to see a bigger magazine and larger caliber.

As far as the former, if Henry doesn't do it, with today's injection molded technology someone will jump on the opportunity.

As far as the latter, I can see this as a test production. If the demand is there, larger calibers and variations are coming. Octagon barrel easy enough to do. Action length? How hard will it be to stretch it out to .30-06 length?

DPris · Post by **DPris** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:10 pm

This is a first step, and the gun IS intended to challenge the bolt-action market in accuracy, which it easily does.
Henry didn't bring it out strictly for already-levergunners, they want to convert boltgunners here & there, too.

Sights, as mentioned, are a strong possibility with an altered stock version as an alternate down the road if this takes off.
Other calibers are possible, but don't expect too many "fringe" calibers.

I also would not expect extended mags from Henry.
In my case, I wouldn't want one on this rifle, it carries well with that flush steeler already in it & anything else would clutter up the lines & get in the way of my hand during ground carry.
Denis

I keep forgetting to mention the free-floated Henry barrel.

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:23 pm

FWiedner wrote:Hammer-less leverguns aren't any more appealing to me than hammer-less revolvers. It's just wrong.

I feel the same way about hammerless semiauto pistols....

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:33 pm

Now we just have to have a member here get one and test it out....

DPris · Post by **DPris** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:46 pm

I ain't a member here?
Denis

harry · Post by **harry** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:18 pm

DPris wrote:I ain't a member here?
Denis

You know some of the guys have selective reading disorder

DPris · Post by **DPris** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:31 pm

Do apparently, they.

Denis

DPris · Post by **DPris** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:43 pm

Fortunately they're not lesdyxic on top of that.

Denis

Ray Newman · Post by **Ray Newman** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:24 pm

I wish Henry luck with sales as competition is always good.

To my eyes, when comparing the Henry to the Browning, the Henry looks less graceful and too heavy.

DPris · Post by **DPris** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 5:08 pm

Just got confirmation a long-action WILL be coming out, time-frame not known.
Exact calibers also unk, but I'd think a .30-06 should be among the first.
Denis

TedH · Post by **TedH** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 5:16 pm

Real world price had better be about half of MSRP, or I don't see it being a big seller.

DPris · Post by **DPris** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 5:18 pm

It won't go that low.
Denis

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 5:32 pm

DPris wrote:It won't go that low.
Denis

I see people spending $600 on pistol-caliber and medium-range leverguns, so asking a bit more for one that is long-range, well-made, American-made, and could easily replace a 308 bolt-action, and a 30-30 levergun, isn't all that big a deal to a hunter who simply wants a powerful, accurate, rifle, that is way faster than a bolt-action. Those guys aren't impressed by the word "Winchester" (and never heard the word 'Japchester' but don't like foreign-made stuff) or any nostalgia; they just want a deer-rifle that doubles as a military-cartridge-shooting home defense rifle. WE would want a Winchester 30-30, Savage 308, Ruger Scout rifle, and an 1895, then maybe an ugly AR, but there are many who just want one or two guns in a 'military' cartridge, so might well spring for the Henry.

DPris · Post by **DPris** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 5:58 pm

Once people see 'em & see what they are & can do, I think they'll sell.
Denis

ollogger · Post by **ollogger** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 6:54 pm

Thanks for all the fine work on the Henry Denis!!!
I do have a few Lever guns & some have scopes but most don't, also with the herd is 2 Henry guns
American made with pride, I for one will be in search of one in 223, I have no desire for a AR or a bolt
gun in 223, my little H&R 1 shooter has fit the bill for years but I do have the hots for the Henry in 223

Brad

DPris · Post by **DPris** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 7:01 pm

Happy to help.
Even if I don't do honest reviews & ain't a member here.

Denis

Ji in Hawaii · Post by **Ji in Hawaii** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 7:14 pm

I move to nominate Denis to be a member here. Anyone here second the motion?

harry · Post by **harry** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 7:18 pm

DPris wrote:Happy to help.
Even if I don't do honest reviews & ain't a member here.
Denis

Thanks for the review and other information, I will be getting one as soon as available. I have some plans for it.

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 7:21 pm

I'd like to see a good review of the one in 243; if it is really sub-moa accuracy, I might sell an AR during the 2016-election-panic to find it.

TWHBC · Post by **TWHBC** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 8:00 pm

Does anyone else think that the looks would be improved with a set of iron sites ?
And a set of iron sites should be included for the price!
At least a dovetail for the rear?
Also for a rifle retailing over $1000 should not the toe of the recoil pad follow the lower line of the butt stock !